11 Biggest Reveals From Hulu’s Brat Pack Documentary

Warning! This article contains SPOILERS for Hulu’s Brats.

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Summary

  • New York Magazine write David Blume coined the “Brat Pack” nickname, triggering a complex response from its members.
  • Andrew McCarthy reunited with fellow “Brat Pack” actors for candid interviews, using archival footage for those who didn’t appear.
  • Brats shed light on the lasting impact of the nickname and the career struggles certain actors post-article.

The new Hulu documentary Brats saw actor-director Andrew McCarthy reach out to other members of the “Brat Pack” to talk about the nickname and their feelings about it, leading to some interesting reveals. The “Brat Pack” was the product of a New York Magazine profile on Emilio Estevez, who was considered the group’s leader, that turned into something much bigger than any of them could have expected. A big focus of the documentary was why the “Brat Pack” hated the nickname, with the tagline being “Everybody wanted to be in the Brat Pack. Except them.

Not every “Brat Pack” member appeared in the Hulu documentary, but McCarthy managed to track down most of them. He also spoke to other popular young actors of the 1980s, critics and cultural figures, and the writer of the New York Magazine article, David Blume. He blended these in-person interviews with archival footage from different “Brat Pack” movies and interviews from back in the day. This allowed everyone’s voice to be heard, even those who didn’t fully participate.

11 The Original Brat Pack Article Criticized The Actors

The Brat Pack Was Coined By New York Magazine

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Most people simply remember David Blume’s New York Magazine article as the piece that coined the “Brat Pack” nickname. However, Brats tells a different story that helps explain why those named as part of the “Brat Pack” were so upset at the time and remain conflicted about the nickname today. For the profile, Blume went to dinner with Estevez, Rob Lowe, and Judd Nelson, which ended up inspiring most of the piece.

Estevez expressed a sort of betrayal, as he’d thought Blume was his friend, just for him to criticize them in the article. Blume painted the actors as entitled kids skating on looks and popularity rather than talent. In the article, Blume even referred to Nelson as “overrated,” saying he’s “better off when typecast.” He called out the fact that many hadn’t spent years studying acting, suggesting they didn’t deserve their success. Beyond the somewhat condescending nickname of “Brat,” these words offended the “Brat Pack” the most.

10 Andrew McCarthy & Emilio Estevez Were Supposed To Do Another Movie Together

Emilio Estevez Didn’t Want To Work With The Brat Pack Anymore

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For McCarthy, making Brats also meant reuniting with others in the “Brat Pack,” many of which he hadn’t seen in over 30 years. Despite playing the popular cool kid Blane in Pretty in Pink, McCarthy spoke about how he never felt like a cool insider the way Estevez, Nelson, and Lowe appeared to be. McCarthy and Estevez’s initial reunion was awkward, likely because of the reveal that they were supposed to do a movie together.

After the “Brat Pack” article was published, they were approached to make a film called Young Men With Unlimited Capital based on the memoir about two people who paid to attend the famous 1969 Woodstock Festival. Estevez called it “One of the best scripts [he] had read in a long time,” yet it never got made because of him. He found out McCarthy was being offered a role and turned it down, not wanting to work with another “Brat Pack” member. Estevez said he would’ve done the same if it had been Judd, as he, like others, was trying to separate himself from the moniker.

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9 Andrew McCarthy Had A Crush On Ally Sheedy

Andrew McCarthy Confessed His Crush To Ally Sheedy

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Ally Sheedy and Andrew McCarthy only worked on one film together, but it was considered one of the essential “Brat Pack” films, St. Elmo’s Fire (1985). Though they both expressed their complicated feelings towards the “Brat Pack” nickname, they also shared some good memories. The “Brat Pack” may not have been best friends, but they still worked together at formative moments of their lives.

McCarthy talked about a time Sheedy drove him home after a day of filming and how special that memory was for him. Ally spoke about not having friends in high school and feeling like she had real friends for the first time while filming. McCarthy then confessed to once having a crush on Sheedy, and while they moved on from it quickly, it was a sweet moment as they played love interests in St. Elmo’s Fire. Brats even cut in the clip where McCarthy’s character confesses his love for Sheedy’s character.

8 The Brat Pack Struggled To Work After The Article

Hollywood Began Treating The Brat Pack Differently After The Article

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Multiple “Brat Pack” members saw the article and the response to it as a way to humble them for all the success they’d been getting. They felt by focusing on their social lives and including comments about how they weren’t college graduates, the intention was to knock them down a peg. Even if this wasn’t the intention, some actors in the “Brat Pack” felt the impact when auditioning and trying to get work post-article.

McCarthy and others shared that there was a different energy and attitude towards them while auditioning. McCarthy was particularly upset with the “Brat Pack” article because he had studied acting for a while at New York University (NYU). His agents corroborated this, as they also noticed the change and saw how the “Brat Pack” article ultimately hurt his career in some ways.

7 Lea Thompson Wanted To Be In The Brat Pack

People Assumed The Brat Pack Were Best Friends

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McCarthy didn’t just speak to those who were considered officially part of the “Brat Pack,” but those who were adjacent to them as well. This included Lea Thompson, who starred in Howard Deutch and John Hughes’ Some Kind of Wonderful (1987) and experienced success in the 1980s with the Back to the Future films. Also featured in the documentary was Jon Cryer, known for playing Duckie in Deutch and Hughes’ Pretty in Pink (1986).

They weren’t officially considered part of the “Brat Pack,” as they weren’t in movies like St. Elmo’s Fire and The Breakfast Club (1985). Yet, they told McCarthy that part of them wanted to be in the group. Thompson, like many, saw them as a group of cool best friends. However, the “Brat Pack” were never best friends; a writer’s words and their films were what grouped them.

6 Molly Ringwald & Judd Nelson Didn’t Want To Be Interviewed For BRATS

Molly Ringwald Wanted To Move Forward

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Throughout Brats, McCarthy had varying degrees of success getting his fellow “Brat Pack” members to sit with him and his film crew for interviews. For example, Demi Moore and Lowe were harder to get a hold of. This wasn’t exactly surprising, as they are probably the two who have experienced the most success since the days of the “Brat Pack.”

Yet, two people he ultimately couldn’t get onscreen were Molly Ringwald and Judd. He talked with Ringwald off camera, and she told him she didn’t want to be in Brats because she just wanted to move on. Ringwald was one of the younger members, only a teenager in her movies with John Hughes, so it’s understandable that she doesn’t want to look backward. Curiously, the youngest member, Andrew McCarthy, was never even mentioned in Brats.

On the other hand, Judd was just very off the grid. It wasn’t until the final moments of Brats that Judd actually called McCarthy back, and the film ended immediately after. This is somewhat of a cliffhanger, but it can be assumed that Judd shared a similar sentiment to Molly. McCarthy opted to use old interview footage of them instead.

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5 Demi Moore Was Given A Sober Companion On St. Elmo’s Fire

The St. Elmo’s Fire Director Protected Demi Moore

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Unfortunately, getting famous and fast at a young age can lead stars down a difficult path. Many members of the “Brat Pack,” including Sheedy, Moore, and McCarthy had their own issues with alcoholism and drug addiction in their youth. Fortunately, they have since received help and openly talked about their journeys.

Moore was only 23 when she did St. Elmo’s Fire, her fifth film, but she’d already been in rehab. She was advised not to make the film if she wanted to maintain her sobriety. They asked her if her life or the movie was more important to her, and she said the movie. Luckily, St. Elmo’s Fire director Joel Schumacher was looking out for Moore and hired a sober companion to be with her throughout filming. Moore was grateful Schumacher did that for her instead of replacing her.

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4 Demi Moore Saw The Brat Pack Differently From Others

Demi Moore Didn’t Let The Nickname Affect Her

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While Moore also expressed annoyance and conflicting emotions regarding the “Brat Pack” nickname, she viewed it differently. Perhaps she was able to have this perspective because it never appeared to hold her back from success – she kicked off the 1990s with the huge box-office success Ghost. She also could have had this success because of her differing perspective.

In some ways, the “Brat Pack” members got in their own way because of the nickname. As aforementioned, Estevez even turned down a movie because he didn’t want to be associated with McCarthy and the others. Moore said while the name followed her in the press for a while, over time, she didn’t take it “as personal” as some others did. She saw the “Brat Pack” name trying to “diminish” them and took it as an “opportunity to rise above” instead, and she rose.


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3 The Original Ending For Pretty In Pink Tested Poorly

Pretty In Pink Changed Its Controversial Ending Last Minute

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John Hughes followed up the successful year of The Breakfast Club and Weird Science with Pretty in Pink, starring “Brat Pack” members Ringwald and McCarthy and adjacent member Cryer. It was the last movie Ringwald made with Hughes. While some consider it their best collaboration, it didn’t test well with initial audiences. Sadly, Hughes passed away in 2009 at 59, but McCarthy spoke with director Howard Deutch for Brats.

The Pretty in Pink ending still gets debated today, as people have split themselves up into “team Duckie” (Cryer) and “team Blane” (McCarthy). Yet, in the original ending, she chose neither. After strong negative reactions in audience tests, they shot the version where Andie ends up with Blane. McCarthy had already been working on another movie that caused him to change his hair, meaning he had to wear a wig he still cringes at for the final scene.

2 The Brat Pack Met The Rat Pack

Rob Lowe & Andrew McCarthy Met Sammy Davis Jr.

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The “Brat Pack” nickname was also a play on the famous “Rat Pack” of the 1950s and 1960s, to which they were compared to in the original article. The group included Nat King Cole, Frank Sinatra, Sammy Davis Jr., and more, with their paths usually crossing in films and casinos. While Lowe and McCarthy weren’t friends, they had dinner together one night while filming St. Elmo’s Fire, which they spoke about in Brats.

To McCarthy’s surprise, the dinner was with Liza Minnelli. Just as it seemed like the night was over, Liza took them to Sammy Davis Jr.’s house, where the “Brat Pack” met the “Rat Pack.” Davis Jr. complimented their work and said he was watching them. Lowe said things like that “routinely happened” to him, and he sees stories like theirs repeating with each generation of young stars.

1 David Blume Revealed How He Came Up With The Name Brat Pack

David Blume Didn’t Mean It In A Negative Way

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Towards the end of Brats, Andrew McCarthy had a surprising final interviewee. Since the profile in New York Magazine was on Emilio Estevez and journalist David Blume had only had dinner with him, Lowe, and Nelson, McCarthy had never met him. McCarthy is only mentioned once in the article, via a quote in which a co-star says “I don’t think he’ll make it.”

The interaction between McCarthy and Blume was interesting, with McCarthy still dealing with the impact the “Brat Pack” had on his life. Blume shared that he didn’t mean it to be negative, he was just trying to be funny. He recognized mistakes may have been made, and some things shouldn’t have been written, but he wouldn’t have changed anything.

Blume also revealed the nickname wasn’t originally part of the article. After his dinner with Estevez, Lowe, and Nelson and before the article came out, Blume had dinner with some fellow journalists. One of them joked they were the “Fat Pack,” and it stuck with him while writing the article, eventually inspiring the “Brat Pack.” Despite some tension, McCarthy and Blume made peace and realized they shared something through that article. Without it, it wouldn’t have brought everyone together again for Brats.

Source: New York Magazine

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Brats (2024)
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Brats offers an in-depth look at the lives of military children, capturing the complexities of growing up on the move. Through heartfelt interviews and vivid storytelling, the documentary highlights the resilience and adaptability required to navigate frequent relocations.

Director Andrew McCarthy Release Date June 13, 2024 Cast Lea Thompson , Molly Ringwald , Andrew McCarthy , Demi Moore , Ally Sheedy , Rob Lowe , Emilio Estevez , Jon Cryer Runtime 92 Minutes

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